we have been working -- watching, interacting with the foreign policy and lindsey graham and john mccains, the republican party. now we are finally seeing it. the sort of anti-spending wing has overtaken the foreign policy. at least its it comes to this issue. >> chris van holland, good morning, congressman. >> good morning, chris. >> what's going on behind the scenes to get a deal right now? is there any communication at all? you heard the criticism that -- that the president is not meeting with congressional leaders. both sides have been blaming each other. what's going on in a way that mate solve this? >> well, chris, there has been communication but that's very i different, as you know, than a negotiation. we have not seen a negotiation. primarily because republicans con to cling to their position they will not accept one penny of additional revenue as part of a balanced alternative to the sequester. what the president, democrats, said we understand. we have to make tough cuts and do them at a targeted and smart way but we should also be cutting these tax loopholes that benefit very w